Dear 21 Year Old Me - life lessons from leaders

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Jeremy Irvine

26 September 2025

1h 23m 4s

E13: Ros Cardinal

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In this episode of Dear 21-Year-Old Me, with guest Ros Cardinal

  • We go back in time to 1989 when Ros turned 21.
  • Ros reflects on her career in the federal public service and how she moved to running her own firm
  • We talk about a critical piece of feedback and what changed Ros's leadership mindset
  • What does AI and its impact mean for leaders?
  • We discuss being your best true self and what that means for leaders and their teams
  • We ask Ros her favourite and least favourite organisational phrases (during which we reference TV show Utopia - the character's name we talk about was Beverley, played by Rebecca Massey)
  • We ask Ros what she'd say to her 21-year-old self, and what Ros at 21 would say to herself now.

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